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A bit of a snag with the sausage rolls
With a heading like that, one can assume there is
an unusual story to follow. But what is a
serviceman doing mixed up - if that's the right
phrase - with sausage rolls? Well, everything's
gone electronic these days, so it had to happen
eventually.
Truth to tell, this is not my story.
It comes from a colleague who lives
up the NSW north coast, in an area
renowned for its tourist attractions
and large holiday population. This
is how he tells it.
My mate's story
Ordinarily, this is the last kind of
job I would want to become involved in. It's hard enough keeping
track of all the new model TV sets,
video recorders, etc that seem to
breed like rabbits in a 40-acre paddock but at least you know what
they're supposed to do. With this
device I hardly had that much to go
on.
So how did I become involved? It
was one of those social links which
is hard to ignore. The owner of the
appliance - Charlie - lives only a
couple of doors down the road, so
we see each other frequently on
that basis. In addition, we both own
boats and belong to the local sailing
club, so we see a lot of each other at
that level too. And Charlie's a pretty decent bloke anyway, who has
done me a few favours - all of
which adds up when someone is in
strife.
Charlie is the local pastrycook
and his business is quite large for a
country area. It employs about 20
people in a factory on the edge of
town and supplies a range of outlets
up and down the coast for 50km or
so, as well as his own outlet in the
town. As well as the aforementioned sausage rolls, his products include meat pies, and a wide range
of cakes and pastries.
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One of his latest appliances is
what might best be described as a
sausage mince dispenser. It set him
back some $6000 but, on the basis
of what it was supposed to do and
his needs, he considered it a sound
investment. That may sound surprising but with a daily turnover of
around 3000 pies and rolls, doling
out dollops of mince with a spoon is
hardly a proposition. And that's
about all I knew about the thing up
to this point.
It was only recently that I first
learned of his troubles. His reply to
my "Ow yer goin' mate?" - politely translated - suggested that
things weren't "goin"' too good.
"It's that blankety blank sausage
mince machine. Always packing up
in the middle of a production run.
Costs me a fortune in lost production time".
I went through the motions of
suggesting the appliance maker's
service department or even the
local electrician but it was a losing
battle. It had already been back to
the makers on two or three occasions - an expensive and lengthy
procedure in itself - with little
long term satisfaction. And the
electrician freely admitted he was
out of his depth.
"It's the electronics in the thing",
Charlie went on. 'Tm sure of that.
Right up your alley really. Could
you possibly have a look at it?"
Put like that, how could I refuse?
Thus it was that I found myself
face to face with the machine while
the factory was idle during the day.
The main part was a heavy gauge
stainless steel box, about 60cm
square and 30cm high, mounted on
castors for mobility. This contained
an electric motor and pressure
pump.
Mounted on top of it was a funnel, about a metre high, with a top
diameter of around 45cm, narrowing to about 6cm at the bottom
where it entered the box. This was
the input to the pressure pump and
in use, would be loaded with raw
mince. A post on the side of the box,
about the same height, provided
support for the top of the hopper.
Emerging from the side of the box
was a plastic hose, about three
metres long and 5cm in diameter,
with strands of reinforcing fabric
moulded into it. This was the pump
outlet. The other end of the hose
terminated in a stainless steel nozzle, about 30cm long, slightly angled, and tapering to about 2.5cm at
its outlet. There was also an
operator's control button on the
nozzle.
In operation, the mince was forced out through the nozzle and applied to whatever pastry was involved. In making sausage rolls for
example, the pastry would be laid
out in strips about a metre long, a
run of mince laid along it, the
pastry rolled, then cut into lengths
prior to baking.
Up to this point everything
described - bar the control button
- was robust, well designed and
ideal for an industrial application.
Not so the control button and its
associated cable which was supposed to control everything. The
control button was a micro switch
mounted in a plastic housing and
was connected to the main control
unit via a cable taped to the hose.
The control unit
The control unit was in a box
mounted on the side of the machine.
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"I know that it's rough", he admitted, "but it got us out of bother a
few weeks ago. Now the whole
thing's gone erratic again; I think
it's about to pack it in completely".
It certainly sounded like a more
deep seated fault. Closer inspection
showed that the control unit had its
own power supply and could be
easily detached from the machine.
Having done that I disconnected the
hose, then dumped the whole lot in
the van and took it back to the
workshop. I had several ideas
about the button and cable but first
I had to check the control unit.
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It appeared to be a small micro-
processor and timer which controlled a relay in the pump motor circuit
and offered the operator a number
of options, selected by a button pad
on the box. These included continuous feed with the nozzle button
held down, a single delivery of a
measured amount, or repetitive
measured amounts, as used to fill a
batch of pie crusts.
Electronically, this was quite
clever; mechanically, it left much to
be desired. The control button housing was of flimsy plastic and the
cable was a lightweight microphone variety, only about 2.5mm in
diameter, taped to the underside of
the hose. Since the hose and cable
would be dragged across the concrete floor, and the nozzle would
often be dropped on the concrete, it
was no surprise that both had given
trouble.
The plastic housing and micro
switch had been replaced several
times, cracks in the housing allowing water to reach the micro switch
when the nozzle was washed after
each production run. The cable was
badly worn and if not already faulty, was not far from it.
In desperation Charlie had ditched the micro switch and substituted
a fairly robust spring loaded
pushbutton switch from the local
service station. He had simply
taped this to the side of the nozzle.
I had no circuit of the thing but a
visual inspection failed to reveal
any obvious fault. But I was shocked at its appearance. The printed
copper pattern was the crudest
piece of etching I'd seen for a long
time; the kind of thing you'd expect
an experimenter to draw freehand
with a resist pen. Beauty may be only skin deep but this was clearly indicative of the rough and ready approach to the whole electronic
design.
On the other hand, having disconnected the flimsy microphone cable
and substituted a couple of clip
leads, I couldn't fault its performance. I let it run while I worked on
the button housing and fresh cable,
tested it in all modes at regular intervals and it never missed a beat.
So all I could do was press ahead
with the obvious requirements and
hope it wasn't a deep seated intermittent. My main concern was to
get it all going for that night's shift.
I decided to retain the auto
switch Charlie had bought. It was a
single hole mounting type, robust
and reliable and while not totally
waterproof, was no worse in that
respect than the original micro
switch assembly.
The original plastic box was
mounted on a metal plate which
was then secured to the nozzle. I
was lucky enough to have on hand a
diecast aluminium box which was
only slightly larger and this was
easily fitted to the plate.
With the switch mounted in the
box it only remained to fit a new
cable back to the control box. I was
lucky here too; I had on hand an odd
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length of professional microphone
cable, two conductor plus shield,
with a tough outer coating, about
6mm in diameter.
Then it was back to the factory to
reassemble everything. In the process I took the precaution of taping
the cable in such a way that it
would normally sit on top of the
hose, rather than underneath it.
A dummy run indicated that
everything seemed to be working
correctly and I left Charlie to
organise the real thing later in the
evening. As I learned the next day,
it all went without a hitch - and
has kept on going for the many
weeks leading up to my writing
these notes.
Even so, I don't regard the setup
as ideal. I'm hoping it will last 12
months or so while I find something
better. I'd like a better switch and
have been toying with the idea of a
reed switch actuated by a permanent magnet. I've heard rumours of
commercial versions of such an
assembly and would like to track
them down.
I'd also like a better cable,
perhaps an armoured variety if I
can find one, that was light enough
and flexible enough. In the meantime, Charlie is delighted, regards
me as an electronic wizard, and
happily paid me for my time. (There
was never any suggestion that he
wanted any favours in this regard;
all he wanted was to get the thing
fixed).
Looking back I can't escape the
feeling that the mechanical part of
the appliance was a well established and proven design long before
anyone decided to add the electronic features. And whoever did it
may be very clever electronically
but has a lot to learn about the
practical side of industrial electronics.
It doesn't work - but don't get me
sta'r ted on that subject or I'll go on
forever.
So here's a complete change of
scene - in more senses than one.
From the north coast to the south
coast, where another colleague is
battling to cope with the vagaries of
UHF transmissions - as have been
dealt with extensively elswhere and problems unique to UHF
equipment.
As might be imagined, the main
section unique to UHF - apart
from the antenna - is the tuner,
and that is what this story is all
about; tuners and the problems of
service. This is how he tells it.
My other mate's story
This all started with a fairly
routine job involving a Sharp VCR,
type VC9300. The owner's main
complaint was that it had chewed
up a couple of tapes. Then he added, almost as an afterthought, that
he couldn't get it to work on UHF.
The cause of the tape destruction
was fairly obvious; it needed a new
idler wheel, plus the usual routine
cleaning, lubrication and adjustment of the various torques. That
done I put it through its paces, making several recordings with a varie-
Change of scene
Well that's my mate's story and I
couldn't agree more with his comments about industrial electronics.
A common but misguided concept is
that one can simply take the hardware of entertainment electronics
and use it for industrial electronics.
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that the tape chewing problem was
solved.
Now for the tuner. I went over
the VHF channels but found little to
worry about, apart from a slight
touch-up here and there. There was
certainly no lack of sensitivity.
Next, I tried the UHF channels.
The owner was right; there wasn't
even a flicker - just snow. I tuned
right across the band but couldn't
raise a sign of anything; and this in
the presence of at least one local
signal which delivers a millivolt or
more from the antenna.
The two possibilities here were
that either the UHF tuner itself was
faulty or that another fault was
depriving it of correct operating
voltages. In particular, the voltage
on pin 8, which is a switching
voltage to bring in the UHF section,
is a prime suspect, failure of the
associated transistor which switches this voltage on and off being a
common fault. (The normal value is
about 10V in the "on" position).
I checked this and other appropriate voltages and all were correct. So it was the tuner. Tuners
are quite complex things to service;
it is a specialist job, undertaken by
a number of independent organisations. Very few company service
departments will handle them. Even
worse, the latest designs are virtually non-repairable; chuck it
away and buy a new one.
Fortunately, this one didn't fall
into that category and I deal with a
repair organisation in the city for
such service. On past experience, I
expected this to take a bout three
weeks; longer than I would like but
about the best available. I advised
the customer accordingly, adding a
week for safety in case something
went wrong.
If only I'd known then what I
know now. These things tend to slip
one's mind with pressure of other
jobs but after about five weeks the
alarm bells started ringing. A
phone call didn't produce a very
satisfactory answer. The truth is
that this firm is only an agency;
they farm the work out to another
organisation, which makes it just
that much harder to chase things
up.
They were extremely vague
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about the situation at first but after
I made some jumping up and down
noises - at STD rates - they said
that it had been passed on to the
service company and was still
there. In reply to my request to
hurry things along, they promised
faithfully to do so. In the meantime,
I had to do what I could to placate
the customer.
Spattered chips
Three weeks later - still no
tuner. Another phone call - I was
spitting chips by now - and this
time I insisted on speaking to a particular person who has been helpful
in the past. Their answer was a
real stopper; that person was on
holidays and nobody else knew
anything about the tuner.
I'm afraid I blew up. In no uncertain language I demanded that they
find someone who knew something
about it and ring me back promptly,
adding that I had no intention of
holding onto an STD call while they
waffled about.
Three days went by and no
response. I made another call and
demanded to speak to the manager.
With an effort I managed to remain
calm long enough to explain the
problem and request that he do
something about it. He appeared to
be sympathetic and promised to
look into it and call me back.
Two days later he called me. The
tuner had been fixed, was on its
way back to them and they would
despatch it immediately. After
another week, making the total
count about 10, the tuner finally arrived. End of story? Not a bit of it!
Brown dog
You're not going to believe this; it
was no better than before - absolutely dead. Fuming, I pulled it
out and sent it back with a stiff
note, saying do something about it
and do it fast. And they did; it took
only a week to get it back this time.
And yes it did work but it was as
sick as the proverbial brown dog.
More precisely, I measured it as
being at least 25dB down on normal. It needed a 5mV signal from
the colour bar generator to produce
even a snowy picture. This was so
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bad that even I began to doubt my
diagnosis. Was there another fault
in the recorder?
As luck would have it, an identical recorder came in for routine
service. I pulled the tuner out - the
tuner alone without its board and fitted it to the suspect machine.
It worked perfectly.
I rang the manager again and
demanded that he do something
about it. His reply was apologetic
but not very informative. In the
meantime, my customer was jumping up and down - and I couldn't
blame him. So I pulled another
trick; I gave the customer the
manager's name and phone number
and said, "Here, you give him a
blast - two blasts might be better
than one".
It's a good trick. If nothing else, it
convinces the customer that you
are genuine. And in this case it
might have helped. Anyway the
manager rang back in a couple of
days but only to say that the repair
department claimed that there was
nothing wrong with the tuner.
How glad I was that I had tried
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that substitute tuner. I was able to
shoot that claim down in flames. I
felt a bit sorry for the manager; he
was the meat in the sandwich but I
had to keep the pressure on.
Anyway, he rang back in a couple
of days, saying that the service
department still claimed there was
nothing wrong with the tuner but
that they were sending me a
replacement one.
This duly arrived, was fitted, and
worked perfectly; the final justification of my diagnosis and persistence. So, after about three months, I finally had a less unhappy
customer.
With hindsight I am convinced
that nothing was done to the tuner
the first time around. Something
was fixed the second time, but performance was judged purely subjectively, probably using a strong
signal from a nearby transmitter.
On the basis of that episode, I
had had a gutful as far as that firm
was concerned. So, when faced
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with a faulty tuner in a HMV colour set, C221 chassis, I sought the
advice of a colleague. He recommended another company, firm B.
I rang them. Yes, they knew the
tuner and could provide a reconditioned replacement for a very
reasonable fee. So I despatched the
tuner, with a cheque, and crossed
my fingers. Everything looked good
at first - the replacement arrived
in less than a week. You beaut!
The joy was short lived. Sensitivity at the bottom end of the band SBS (Ch.52) and ABC (55) - was
very poor. The next channel up WIN (59) - was suffering extreme
cross modulation, and only Capital
(62) and Prime (63) were worth
watching.
It had to be the tuner. So I pulled
it out and sent it back, with a covering note detailing the faults. This
time the round trip took about 10
days. Then the tuner arrived with a
letter claiming that there was
nothing wrong with it and that I
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I regarded that as a classic "out"
and something of an insult, to boot
- particularly when I realised that
this was not the same tuner (no
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mention of this), and even more so
when I fitted it and it worked
perfectly. Need I say more?
My next experience involved
several UHF tuners of the so-called
mechanical variety. These are a
continuous tuning type employing a
variable tuning capacitor, made by
General, but also used by other
makers. I am currently holding a
General (GC18A), a HMV and a
Healing receiver, all needing service for this model tuner.
In an effort to avoid more intestinal distress, I sought further
advice. Firm C, a colleague assured
me, was the one to deal with. I rang
them and was assured that they
could handle this model. So,
cautiously, I sent one tuner for
starters.
It was back within week with a
note saying that it could not be fixed, as it had been "bodgied". On
closer inspection I had to agree that
this was probably right. Fair
enough. So I checked the other two,
but they seemed clean, and I sent
them off.
These also came back in short
order, with the advice that they
were not repairable, but with no
further explanation. But at least I
must say this for that firm; they
were honest and didn't muck me
about. But I'm stuck with three sets
which may have to be written off
due to lack of adequate tuner
service.
All of which adds up to a rather
grim outlook for this and other UHF
areas as they are brought in. A major problem arises from the fact
that all the tuner service centres
are remote from these UHF regions
and so have little knowledge of the
practical problems, or the means to
test tuners in the field.
At best they are relying on instrument measurements but, more likely I suspect, often lack even this
facility, depending on limited off-air
observations.
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