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SERVICEMAN'S LOG
A very circuitous exercise
Rare or unknown TV sets can present a
difficult situation for .any serviceman. And in
this case, the situation was further aggravated
because the circuit diagram was inadequate
and because the set employed unusual
circuitry.
The set in question was of French
design, a Thomson model TS5152.
Thomson sets appeared on the Australian market several years ago and I
have encountered two or three of them
in the past. The last one was a model
TS5108 which had a tricky vertical
scan fault. It was described in these
notes in May 1989.
At the time, I established that they
were imported by Lemair Aust. Pty
Ltd (23 Amax Avenue, Girraween,
2145) and that service and spare parts
were being handled by Hills Telefix
Service (10 Wigs Rd, Riverwood, 2210.
Phone (02) 533 4855). As far as I can
determine, this situation still applies.
This information may assist anyone
else who encounters these sets.
Relatively speaking, I suppose that
the faults in this latest set were not all
that unusual. However, I could have
been caught had I acted too hastily
and the story is worth telling for that
reason alone. But the other aspect is
the one I hinted at earlier; the combination of an unusual circuit and lack
of adequate data to go with it.
And this circuit is unusual. So much
so that I found much of it hard to
follow. This is not a criticism of the
set's design or its designers . If they
can find a better way to do things ,
then good luck to them. The set is an
excellent performer and, by all accounts, has a better than average reliability record. The fact that I have
encountered so few of them would
seem to support this.
But a strange circuit, no matter how
justified, can still present a problem
at the service level. That's why a good
circuit and other data are vital in such
cases. But this is where the system
fell down , because the circuit contained a number of errors -some trivial
and some quite frustrating.
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As the set came in, the fault was
quite straightforward; it was simply
dead. One obvious reason for this was
that the mains fuses were blown.
These carry the part number FP0l
and type number TlA, signifying a
delay type 1A fuse. And this was the
first circuit discrepancy; there are two
such fuses in the set but only one
shown on the circuit.
This discrepancy is quite trivial of
course and I thought no more about
it. But it was a sign of things to come.
Wµat was more important right then
was to find the cause of the fuse failure . I naturally suspected that it was
something in the power supply, most
probably the regulator transistor. In
fact, after studying the circuit, I wasn't
too sure as to how it all functioned.
Mains transformer UP0l has two
secondaries, each feeding a bridge rectifier, DP0l and DP02 . The lower
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right of the power supply board. Where was it? And where was the board on which it is shown?
winding and DP0l, in conjunction
with capacitor CP09 (lO00µF), produces a 23V rail, which goes up and
to the left. It also connects to transistor TP01, a BC337 immediately to the
right, and which appears to be a voltage regulator providing an auxiliary
rail.
The upper secondary winding and
bridge DP02 produces what appears
to be the main rail, at 108V. This connects to the horizontal output transformer primary and thence to the horizontal output transistor, TL02.
down the drain - I eventually found
where it should have been, but there
was only unused copper pattern.
I eventually worked out that TFlO
and TFl 1 form part of the vertical
circuit and, later again, found a "fine
print" notation on the bottom of the
circuit, under the heading "AUST
ONLY", saying, in effect, to delete subboard PB 95 0800 and to add a diode,
apparently in place of the BC33 7 and
associated circuitry.
At that point it became obvious that
I had wandered up the garden path
and I gave up trying to rationalise all
The phantom sub-board
this. But I did wake up to one interestHaving digested that much, I de- ing and useful point about the part
cided that the BC337 voltage regula- numbering system. It appears that the
tor transistor (TP0l) was a likely sus- first letter relates to the component
pect. The only snag was, I couldn't . ("C" for a capacitor, "T" for a transisfind it. According to the circuit, it tor, etc), while the second letter rewas mounted on a sub-board, PB 95
lates to its circuit function.
0800, along with transistors TFlO and
Thus, "P" indicates the power supTF11.
ply; "L" indicates the line (horizonIn fact, there is no such sub-board.
tal) system; "F'; indicates the frame
(vertical) system, and so on. It can be
After much searching, I found TFlO
and TFl 1 mounted on the main board a help and is worth remembering.
and, what was more, I realised that
The next suspect was transistor
they have no electrical association TP0l. TP0l? Hadn't I just given that
with the BC337, as a closer examina- away? Yes, indeed, but there was a
tion of the circuit will confirm.
second TP0l, this time a BU807, imSo where was the BC337, TP0l? mediately to the right of the aforeAnswer: it didn't exist either. By trac- mentioned sub-board. So that was
ing the copper pattern - more time another one up against the circuit
draughtsman's duck house. It appears
to perform some kind of regulator
function but just how I was unable to
work out.
However, since it is a heavy duty
device and is connected directly between the 108V rail and chassis, it
was a natural suspect. Sure enough, it
had broken down . If only I had
checked it first. Anyway, that was it; a
new one was fitted, the two fuses
replaced and the set fired up. It gave a
first class picture.
End of story? Well, it should have
been and I thought it was. But the
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owner wasn't in a hurry so I let this
one run on the bench for the next few
days, putting it through a few switchoff, switch-on cycles in the process.
All went well until I was about to
ring the owner and tell him he could
pick it up. Then I switched it on one
morning and bingo! - it was as dead
as the proverbial dodo.
Not surprisingly, both fuses had
gone again. I immediately suspected
the replacement transistor, since it
was a substitute type, although its
ratings should have been more than
adequate. But no, it checked out OK.
De-gauss circuit
I decided to live dangerously, fitted
two more fuses and switched on. The
set worked, which was a bit of a blow
because it now meant that I had an
intermittent to contend with. On the
other hand, it immediately threw suspicion on another ofmy favourite fuse
blowers: the de-gauss circuit and particularly the thermistor. I've dealt with
faults of this kind many times before
in these notes.
In this case, the "thermistor" is actually a 3-terminal commercial package which is used in a number of sets.
As nearly as I can determine, it is
similar to a system I dealt with in
some detail back in July 1990, in regard to an AWA Thorn 3500. This
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used a positive temperature coefficient thermistor (PTC) and a voltage
dependent resistor, to ensure minimum current through the de-gauss
coils after the de-gauss function.
However, this was the first time I
had seen this package portrayed in
any detail, as it is in this circuit. And
while I accepted the drawing initially,
I did a double take when I looked at it
in greater detail. There's just no way
that I can accept the idea of a PTC
thermistor (which has low resistance
when cold) being connected directly
across the mains, as portrayed here.
Not onlywould the de-gauss function
not work but it would simply be another "little beaut fuse blower". So,
unless I am much mistaken, this is
another circuit blue.
Anyway, this is a standard package
which I carry in stock, so there was no
trouble in replacing it. And that, I was
confident, would settle it. Except that,
a couple of days later, it failed again
and, as before, at switch-on. This last
point maintained my belief that it was
still a de-gauss circuit problem.
Not that there is much left in a
typical de-gauss circuit. But there was
in this case - a 68nF, 400V capacitor
(CP0l) across the de-gauss coils. I
pulled it out and checked it. It checked
OK but I was not convinced. I was
remembering some earlier experi-
ences, involving some 0.lµF capacitors fitted across the mains in the old
General GC181 sets.
These were found to have a selfhealing function; not by design (there
are such devices) but purely by accident. They would break down, blow a
fuse and clear the breakdown all in
one operation. So the serviceman was
faced with a blown fuse and no explanation for it. A new fuse might last
anything from a few hours to several
months - and the consequences can
be imagined.
This was a much smaller capacitor,
both electrically and physically, but
could it have a similar fault? One way
to answer the question would be to
disconnect the de-gauss circuit and
run the set for several days and see
what happened. However, I had a similar capacitor on hand and it was a
simple job to fit it.
Granted, it was only similar. The
one that came out was a quite tiny
unit, probably a mylar type, whereas
the best I could find was a disc ceramic, physically much larger and
with rating of 3kV. There was plenty
of room for the larger unit and I reasoned that the higher voltage rating
wouldn't go amiss. All right, so 3kV is
a bit of an overkill, but it was the
closest I had and I wasn't going to
waste a lot of effort just to satisfy a
technical nicety.
Anyway, for once, I hit the jackpot.
The set ran for several days, through
many on-off cycles, and was finally
returned to the customer. That was
several months ago and there has been
no further trouble.
Sorry, Mr Thomson; a nice set but
no prizes for the circuit diagram.
Tremendous trifles
To change the subject, here are a
few thoughts on what some may consider to be in the "tremendous trifles"
category. And maybe they are but we
should always remember that, for the
customer, the reason a piece of equipment has failed is often of less importance than the simple fact that it has
failed.
Regardless of the cause, no matter
how trivial, the end result is the same;
the customer is temporarily deprived
of the equipment - TV set, radio set,
microwave oven, or whatever. On top
of that, he has to arrange to have it
serviced and transported, all of which
can easily add up to a degree of frus-
that he couldn't get anything out of it.
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Sharp 9C140 (Kriesler 37-104
and similar Philips).
Symptom : No sound or picture.
Ticking sound from the chassis,
like a slow hiccup which persists
for some minutes after the power
is turned off.
Cure: R644, a 2.2Q 0.25W fusible resistor had gone open circuit.
This resistor feeds the main B+ to
the line output stage and also to
the horizontal oscillator. The ticking arose from the chopper power
supply, due to the total lack of a
load on the supply.
TETIA TV Tip is supplied by the
Tasmanian branch of the Electronic Technician 's Institute ofAustralia. Contact Jim Lawler, 16
Adina St, Geilston Bay, 7015.
tration and, possibly, some ill-will.
Of course, sometimes it's the customer's fault and believe m e, the mistakes they can make are often way
out. But that's their problem. What
we have to do is to make sure that no
act of carelessness on our part - trivial
though it may seem - precipitates such
a situation. Take my word for it; the
customer doesn't regard our mistakes
as trivial.
So what brought this on? What disgraceful technical gaffe am I about to
reveal?
None really, but one u nusual fault
did highlight a procedural weakness
which could - and did - produce, in
mild form, the kin d of situation I've
described.
It all started w h en a customer
brought in a Sharp video recorder, a
model VC-381. It had no specific fault
but the owner felt that it was due for a
general overhaul.
And h e was right. It was a quite
grotty, with a fair build-up of oxide on
the heads and guides. These were duly
cleaned, the rest of the mechanism
lubricated and a faulty idler pulley
replaced. It was then checked out on
the bench and passed as OK all round.
And that was more or less it. The
owner duly collected the machine and
I didn't expect to hear any more about
it. Nor did I fo r a couple of days. Then
he was on the phone complaining
It appeared to be working mechani-
cally, all the indicator lights were up
and so on, but it wouldn't produce
any picture.
Such situations have occurred before and I have a few tricks which can
help pinpoint anything the customer
~ ay have done to create it. The first
thing to establish is whether the correct channel has been selected on the
TV set to match the RF output channel of the recorder.
This sounds simple enough but people do get confused. Also , it is quite
possible for the output channel selector switch to be moved while the recorder is being handled. Another trap
is the presence of a VHF /UHF selector switch on some TV sets and, if this
is in the UHF position while the user
is trying to bring in signals on, say,
VHF channel 3, the result will be nothing.
So my routine is to instruct the
customer to try playing a pre-recorded
tape , then try both channels and double check any other switches. This is
a very simple and effective way of
guiding the customer to get the TV set
onto the correct channel.
I went through this with the customer, suggested h e check it all out,
and then ring me back and report. He
was back on the phone again 10 minutes later. "Yeah, I got a picture but
it's so blankety-blank snowy it's not
worth watching".
I double checked what he had done.
It was just possible that he had managed to select a harmonic or something equally silly, but he was adamant that he had done everything correctly. So there was no option but to
check out the machine again and, if it
was OK, to suspect the TV set.
A couple of days later, the machine
was back on my bench and this time,
attached to it, was the interconnecting lead to the TV set (about half the
customers who bring in recorders
leave this lead connected). Such accessories can be quite a nuisance. Once
they become separated from the main
device they are easily mislaid and, if
they are not labelled, forgotten. The
customer then takes his machine
home, having also forgotten about it,
and can't get everything together. The
result is much confusion and ill-will.
Anyway, I was about to disconnect
this lead and fit one of my own when
I realised that it was long enough to
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reach my test monitor. So, without
further ado, I plugged it straight in,
switched on and pushed in a test tape.
And up came a picture immediately.
But the customer was right; it was as sick as the proverbial dog, barely locking into colour. On an impulse I pulled
out the lead and put a meter on it.
And that was it; open circuit on the
inner conductor.
Just where the problem was I didn't
bother to find out but it was an unusual fault, particularly as this lead
normally suffers very little movement.
It did make m~ realise, however, that I
should check any such accessories in
the future if they are supplied.
No nothing
And while on the subject of leads,
here's another one. A customer
brought in a General colour TV set,
model GC187; a set which has been
on the market for about eight years
now. It was one of those abrupt confrontations. He simply pushed it
across the counter with the brusque
comment, "It's dead. Won't go. No
picture, no sound, no nothing". Ignoring the double negative, I got the picture (no pun intended!)
When I switched the set on it was
as the customer had said; totally dead.
I pulled the back off and made for a
convenient HT rail check point. Still
dead. Back tracking, I was soon into
the mains input area, involving the
mains switch on the front panel the
mains fuse, and connections to the
board, in that order.
The fuse was OK, as was the switch,
which left only one possible culprit;
the mains cord itself. The multimeter
confirmed this; one leg was open. This
point settled, I looked along it for
possible signs of damage. I found none.
This was somewhat surprising.
Open circuit cords are not all that rare
but there is usually some obvious
physical damage. Apart from typical
domestic accidents and lack of care, I
have seen cords that were chewed by
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teeth marks , showed unmistakable
signs of arcing. What happened to
Pongo in each of these cases is not
known.
This cord was fitted with a 3-pin
plug moulded to it, so there was no
point in trying to repair it. Fortunately,
I had salvaged several perfectly good
cords from discarded sets against just
such a need and one of these filled the
bill nicely.
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the set, I explained what had happened. Suddenly, he was a lot more
communicative. Shrugging his shoulders , he commented resignedly, "Oh,
this is always happening".
Curious , I pressed him for more
details. And it transpired that the set
belongs to his aged mother, who lives
alone and has a fetish about removing
plugs from power points, when the
appliances are off. But the snag is that
she always jerks them out by the cord;
no one can persuade her to pull the
plug itself. The result is a continuing
saga of open circuit power cords.
So that's another one to add to the
list of power cord abuse.
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