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Vintage Radio
By RODNEY CHAMPNESS, VK3UG
Those troublesome capacitors, Pt.2
Some vintage radio receivers are far more
tolerant of leaky capacitors than others. It
all depends on the circuit configuration and
the role of each individual capacitor.
L
AST MONTH, WE LOOKED at
the problems paper capacitors can
cause in vintage radios, often because
they have become electrically leaky.
Paper capacitors are troublesome and
require replacement more often than
other components, although perhaps
not as often as many people believe.
We also looked at the Healing
R401E, a vintage radio receiver that
can operate successfully with quite
leaky capacitors. This month, we take
a look at the Healing 505E, which isn’t
quite so forgiving.
The Healing 505E
As shown in Fig.2, this set is quite
different to its older brother. We’ll
start by considering capacitors C5
and C12. These are screen bypasses
and the leakage across C12 should not
be less than 20 x R4 (ie, 20 x 100kΩ)
which is equivalent to 2MΩ. If C12’s
resistance is much less than this, the
voltage on the 6BA6’s screen will be
noticeably less than intended and the
performance of the set will suffer.
By contrast, C5’s leakage can be
somewhat greater (less resistance), as
R2 is only 22kΩ.
C4 (the AGC bypass) is supplied
with AGC voltage via R7 (1MΩ) and
both the 6BE6 and 6BA6 valves receive
back bias via a combination of R7 and
R8. If C4 were to become leaky to any
extent, the bias on the valves would
A high-voltage tester is necessary for
testing capacitor leakage resistance.
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be reduced. As a result, they would
work harder and the set could become
unstable and oscillate.
Basically, if C4 is leaky, the voltage
across R7 increases. If the leakage is
bad enough, little AGC bias will be
applied to the two valves and this will
cause distortion and other problems.
In fact, I have always considered
the AGC bypass capacitor to be a very
important. In this case, it should have
a minimum leakage resistance of 20 x
(1 + 1)MΩ, or 40MΩ (R7 and R8 are
both 1MΩ resistors).
My practice is to replace the AGC
capacitor without even testing it and I
like it to have a leakage resistance of at
least 100MΩ. In fact, I usually replace
AGC bypasses with 50V disc ceramic
capacitors. They are reliable and easily
hidden under other components.
An interesting fault
We now come to capacitor C15
which couples the audio from the detector to the first audio stage (6AV6).
The maximum voltage across this
capacitor will be no more than about
20V and yet it is rated at 600V! Note
also that the grid resistor (R11) for the
6AV6 is a 10MΩ unit.
Why so high you might ask? The
answer is that the valve itself develops
contact potential bias and the desired
bias is obtained by connecting a 10MΩ
resistor from grid to earth/cathode.
However, such a high resistance means
that the leakage across C15 must be
around 200MΩ or more, if the valve
bias is not to be upset.
Note that most multimeters will be
struggling to measure this amount of
resistance. This is a very high impedance part of the receiver circuit.
OK, I’ve said that the voltage across
this capacitor is no more than around
20V and that’s with a very strong
station tuned in. An interesting fault
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Fig.1: unlike the Healing R401E, the circuit operation of the 505E model is easily upset by leaky capacitors.
shows up when this capacitor is
moderately leaky. With a relatively
weak station, everything appears to
be normal – the volume increases as
the volume control is advanced. However, when a strong station is tuned in,
the volume decreases as the volume
control is advanced and it may even
completely disappear as the control is
rotated to maximum. Now that is an
interesting fault!
Let’s see how this occurs. As shown
on Fig.1, the volume control (R6) wiper
taps off a variable amount of audio and
negative voltage relative to earth. This
variable negative voltage is applied to
the bottom end of C15, while the top
end has around -1V on it relative to
earth (ie, the contact potential bias).
Now let’s assume that the voltage
developed at the top of R6 (relative to
earth) is -15V and that the wiper is at
this position (ie, maximum volume).
Further, let’s say that the leakage resistance across C15 is RL. In operation, RL
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and R11 will act as a voltage divider
across R6. As a result, the voltage at
the junction of C15 and R11 is [R11/
(RL + R11)] x -15V.
OK, now let’s assume that C15’s
leakage resistance (RL) is 50MΩ. By
plugging this figure into the above
equation, we get [10MΩ/(50MΩ +
10MΩ)] x -15V = -2.5V.
If this is added to the existing -1V
contact potential bias, it means that the
there could be as much as -3.5V of bias
on the 6AV6. In practice, however, the
voltage will be probably be somewhere
between -2.5V and -3.5V. But even
-2.5V is enough to cut off a 6AV6 in
this circuit, resulting in no output on
a strong signal at “full” volume!
In fact, even 100MΩ of leakage
resistance in C15 will dramatically
alter the operating conditions of the
6AV6.
Second audio coupler
Capacitor C19 – the audio coupler
Disc ceramic capacitors are ideal
for use as AGC bypasses. They are
reliable, have very low leakage
and easily hidden under other
components.
between the plate of the 6AV6 and
the grid of the following 6BV7 – also
needs to have quite low leakage (ie,
high resistance). This is necessary for
the 6BV7 to work correctly.
Resistor R13 is 470kΩ, so by my
normal rule of thumb, C19 must not
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Photo Gallery: General Electric Duette
Manufactured in 1934 by AWA, the “Duette” was a 5-valve reflexed
superhet receiver that was electrically equivalent to the AWA
Radiolette Model 27. The valve line-up was as follows: 78 RF amplifier, 6A7 frequency changer, 6B7 reflexed IF/audio amplifier/detector/
AVC rectifier, 42 audio output and 80 rectifier. Photo: Historical Radio
Society of Australia, Inc.
have less than 20 times this resistance
to be satisfactory – ie, about 10MΩ.
However, in this case, the rule breaks
down.
Let’s find out why. First, the plate
of the 6AV6 is at about +70V and, assuming that C19 has a leakage resistance of 10MΩ, this means that +3.3V
will be developed across R13 (this is
calculated using the same formula
listed above). This means that with
-4.5V of bias on the 6BV7’s grid and
+3.3V R13, the 6BV7 will have around
-1.2V of bias.
In reality, it will actually be higher
than this, as the valve will draw excessive current through the back bias
network. As a result, both the power
supply and the 6BV7 will be considerably overloaded and expensive
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fireworks could easily occur.
So my rule of thumb of allowing a
resistance of 20 times the value of any
resistor associated with the capacitor
is seriously in error in this case - just
as it was with the coupling capacitor to
the first audio grid. Even if the leakage
resistance were 200 times the value of
R13, the voltage developed across R13
would still be +0.33V, which is enough
to slightly upset a high-gain short grid
base valve such as the 6BV7.
As a result, in this location, I expect
to see at least 100MΩ of leakage resistance. You can now see why I am rather
paranoid about the condition of the
audio coupling capacitors.
Other critical capacitors
C18, a 400V mica capacitor, is
intended to filter out most of the remaining 455kHz energy in the audio
amplifier. Mica capacitors are usually
quite reliable but when they do play
up, they can be difficult to fault-find.
In this position, the usual effect is
a “crackle” in the sound. Tested with
a normal multimeter, it may show no
leakage resistance and its capacitance
may be at the marked value. However,
a high-voltage tester will often detect
abnormal and varying leakage resistance across the capacitor.
C23 from the plate of the 6BV7 to
earth has the normal HT voltage applied across it plus the peak audio
voltage. This means that this capacitor
needs to be rated much higher than
the circuit’s HT voltage and about
double this voltage is the recommended figure. As a result, a 600V
paper capacitor is usually fitted here.
If its leakage resistance is relatively
low, this capacitor can get quite hot
and can go short circuit.
C17 is the RF bypass across the HT
line and has the full HT DC voltage
applied across it at all times. Theoretically, it can be very leaky and still
function OK. However, if a capacitor
is too leaky, it will behave as though
there is also a resistor inside its case.
As a result, it will heat up and this can
have a cumulative effect – as it gets
hotter, its resistance drops and so it
gets even hotter.
This can easily develop into a runaway scenario and the capacitor needs
to be replaced “pronto”.
A word of caution is needed here.
Before checking whether a capacitor
has become warm to the touch, do the
following things for your safety:
(1.) Turn the set off and remove the
power plug from the power point (if
the set is left connected to the power
point, 240VAC could still be lurking
in the receiver waiting for an unwary
finger to touch it!);
(2.) Make sure that the high-tension
(HT) voltage has disappeared (check
the HT line with your multimeter).
Only then can you can put your
“pinkie” on the insulated case of the
capacitor to check whether it has become warm or not. A time-honoured
technique is worthy of mention here
– when probing around the inside of a
set, keep one hand in your pocket. This
is particularly important when using
a test instrument on a live receiver.
Finally, C22 in the tone control
circuit can be quite leaky and will
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In summary, unlike the older R401E
model, the Healing 505E generally
cannot tolerate leaky paper capacitors. The audio coupling capacitors in
particular are critical and these and a
number of others need to be carefully
tested. In some cases, it even pays to
replace them as a matter of course.
Replacement capacitors
A 1nF (.001µF) capacitor must have
a lot less leakage current through it
than, say, a 270nF (0.27µF) capacitor. My rule of thumb is that no paper capacitor should have less than
2MΩ leakage resistance, while a 1nF
capacitor should have at least 1020MΩ minimum leakage resistance
(as should other similar low-value
capacitors). However, it does depend
on just where it’s going to be used in
the circuit.
Some brands of capacitors were
more prone to leakage than others.
Ducon capacitors in the 1940s, 1950s
and early 1960s were notorious for
becoming leaky. UCCs were also
sometimes leaky but more commonly
became intermittent.
By contrast, the older Chanex capacitors seem to be more reliable and
some of the “moulded mud” AWAs
were OK as well, although many split
their cases.
So what caused some brands of capacitors from certain periods to have a
bad reputation? Frankly, I don’t know,
although I do have some thoughts on
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the matter. Perhaps someone who was
employed in that part of the industry
could enlighten me.
The Philips polyester capacitors
that came onto the market in the
early 1960s were a quantum leap forward as a replacement for the paper
capacitors. Their reliability and low
leakage is well known, although I had
a polyester unit unexpectedly blow
up just recently. There was smoke
every-where from it and the resistor
that also burnt out when it failed (it
went off like bunger).
However, that’s just something that
happens sometimes and polyester
capacitors really are very reliable.
There is no doubt that valve radios
would have carried on for much
longer if they had been available
much earlier (ie, when the radios were
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Testing capacitors
There are two test procedures that
will usually sort good paper capacitors from the bad ones. A check of
the resistance between the two terminals of the capacitor is one such
test. However, a normal multimeter
will not give a reliable indication of
the leakage resistance, as the applied
voltage will be no higher than around
9V. Instead, it must be done using a
high-voltage tester.
Altronics have such a high-voltage
tester as a kit (Cat. K-2555) and the
price is quite reasonable. It can test
capacitors for leakage at either 500V
or 1000V and is invaluable for test-
ing nearly all capacitors other than
electrolytics.
A high-voltage test will usually
show up any capacitor with a leakage
resistance of 200MΩ or less. 200V
capacitors can be tested on the 500V
range, as they usually have a peak
rating well in excess of their normal
operating voltage. Similarly, 400V
units can be tested at 500V, while
600V (or 630V) capacitors can tested
at 1000V.
Heat also has quite an effect on the
leakage resistance of a capacitor. Some
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earth when the capacitor was used as
a bypass – or alternatively, the end that
should connect to the lower impedance part of the circuit.
Why was that? Well, the band indicated the pigtail lead that was connected to the capacitor’s outer foil.
This outer foil (when earthed) acts as
a shield, thereby reducing RF radiation when the capacitor is used as a
bypass or filter.
Summary
A selection of mica capacitors. Mica capacitors are usually quite reliable but
when they do play up, they can be difficult to fault-find.
time ago, I salvaged all the paper capacitors from an old valve b&w TV set.
To test them, I first heated them in an
oven to about 70°C then checked them
using a conventional ohmmeter.
Did I get a shock – they had all tested
OK when cold but it was an entirely
different story after they came out of
the oven. I ended up throwing the lot
in the bin. By contrast, the polyester
capacitors I had salvaged from the
same set were quite OK.
Checking in-situ
Checking capacitors in-situ (eg, in
an old radio) involves first lifting one
end of each capacitor in turn before
checking it with the high-voltage
tester. They can also be heated with a
hair-drier so that they are warm (but
not hot) and the checks repeated. You
will soon discover whether a capacitor
is worth leaving in the set or not.
A larger-value capacitor acting as
(say) an HT RF bypass can be left in
the set after passing a leakage test. It
can then be reconnected, after which
the set can be switched on and the
HT voltage checked. If the HT is OK,
wait a few minutes, then switch the
set off and disconnect it from the
mains. Finally, check that the HT rail
has disappeared (use a multimeter)
before checking the HT bypasses
and electrolytic capacitors to see if
any are warm. If they are, it signals
that the units are too leaky and need
replacing.
Why the high voltage?
As mentioned earlier, the Healing
505E uses several high-voltage paper
capacitors in relatively low-voltage
sections of the circuit. The reason for
this is that the high-voltage units had
better insulation and therefore less
leakage (ie, higher resistance) than
low-voltage types. As a result, highvoltage capacitors were used where
low leakage was critical to the set’s
performance.
By the way, I have also found that
paper capacitors have less leakage
when only a low voltage is applied
across them. As the voltage across
them increases, so does their leakage.
“Earthy” end
A selection of polystyrene capacitors
made by Ducon. Polystyrene capacitors have extremely low leakage.
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Paper capacitors often had a (black)
band at one end of the capacitor. This
indicated the end that should go to
(1.) The leakage resistance of a paper capacitor depends on the voltage
across it, its voltage rating, its capacitance and its temperature.
(2.) The circuit position dictates
how leaky a paper capacitor can be
and still be considered satisfactory.
Audio coupling capacitors and AGC
bypasses, in particular can have very
little leakage, with a leakage resistance
of around 100MΩ or more being the
minimum acceptable resistance. This
is to ensure that there is little or no
alteration to the operating conditions
of the part of the circuit they connect
to.
By contrast, bypass capacitors can
be quite leaky (a cathode bypass can
be down to several kilohms in some
cases and still operate satisfactorily).
However, I recommend a minimum
resistance of around 2MΩ for these
capacitors.
(3.) A capacitor’s leakage resistance
will reduce (ie, the current through it
will increase) when used in a set due
to internal heating, particularly if the
capacitor is relatively leaky. I consider
a leakage resistance of at least 1-2MΩ
to be the minimum for a large paper
capacitor but this should considerably
higher for low-value capacitors.
(4.) The circuit design will dictate
how leaky the paper capacitor can be
in certain location for the receiver to
operate normally. Note the comparison
between the Healing 505E and the
Healing R401E described last month.
(5.) To ensure authenticity, keep at
least some non-critical paper capacitors in a set. A good trick is to remove
the internals of paper capacitors and
fit polyester capacitors (which are
physically smaller) inside the cases
of the old capacitors.
That’s it on the subject of paper
capacitors. We’ll cover electrolytic,
mica and other lesser-known capacitors in a future article a little further
SC
down the track.
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