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recommend a replacement? (F. C.,
Maroubra, NSW)
● That is a common style of relay
made by many manufacturers. We
believe that Altronics S4199, which
is currently available, is virtually
identical.
Jaycar’s SY4051 is similar but rated
at 10A. That should be sufficient,
given that it isn’t switching the full
load current (the parallel thermistor
carries some).
There’s also element14 4228168,
which looks to be compatible, although
it is 5mm taller and doesn’t have the
NC pin (which is not used in that project). We think it will still fit in the box
despite the extra height.
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112
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Improvements to Relay
Selector circuit
I’m an avid reader of Silicon Chip!
Recently, I came across the Pushbutton Relay Selector circuit in the Circuit
Notebook section of the January 2006
issue (siliconchip.au/Article/2537).
Looking at the circuit and reading the text, the basic principle is the
4017 counter/decoder counts up and
sequentially brings O1 through O9
high. It does that until it connects with
the switch being pressed, which then
stops the clock from being fed to CP0.
I think there is a problem since
each of these are sequentially cycled
through. For example, pressing S5,
before Q4 is fed a +5V signal, Q1
through Q3 will have been fed that
voltage as well in sequence. It just will
not have been routed to IC1c to stop
the clock pulses.
This means if any except the first
button connected to O1 is pressed, all
before it in sequence will be pulsed
before settling on the pressed channel.
If these are big relays, that will make
quite a bit of chatter, but more significantly it will turn on potentially unintended channels, as would be the case
in my application where line-level
sources are to be selected.
I have a fix for it in my application,
which could be adapted to the author’s
application as well. I am using latching relays and the driver IC has an
ENABLE pin. This can be connected
through a 4069 inverter to pin 10 of
IC1c to disable the relays until the
clock stops, at which point only one
will be activated.
A similar action can be achieved in
the author’s example by connecting the
positive end of all the relays to the collector of a power Darlington PNP like
a TIP107. Its emitter would be tied to
+12V, then its fed base via a 10kW resistor by pin 10 of IC1c. When that pin
goes low after a selection is made and
the clock stops, all relays are enabled.
The approach used in this circuit
is elegant and achieves many of the
unique attributes of an interlocked
mechanical push-button array at a
much lower cost. Is there a reason this
was not considered with the original
circuit? (H. H., Chapel Hill, North Carolina, USA.)
● Your suggestions are certainly
interesting variations on that circuit.
We think the reason that they were not
incorporated in the original circuit is
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that it probably cycles too fast for the
relays to actuate.
It looks like the cycle frequency is
around 20kHz. That means each transistor will be on for around 50μs. A
relay normally needs several milliseconds to actuate.
Consider that the circuit uses small
Mosfets to switch the relay coils with
100W series gate resistors. The resistors
and gate capacitances (around 60pF
each) will form a low-pass filter with
a time constant of 6ns.
By increasing the resistance and/
or adding capacitors from each gate
to ground, you can increase the time
constant enough that the Mosfets can’t
switch on while the 4017 is cycling. It
would have to stop to provide a long
enough pulse to switch the Mosfet on.
Increasing the resistors to 10kW
and adding 100nF capacitors from the
gates to ground will give a time constant of 1ms, which is far longer than
the 50μs on-time during cycling, but
short enough not to notice when you
are purposefully activating a relay.
Sourcing or substituting
OPA2134PA op amps
I’m trying to find a replacement for
the OPA2134PA op amp that was used
in the Studio Series Stereo Preamplifier design (October 2005; siliconchip.
au/Article/3203).
I have built the preamp but am
unable to source the op amps. I am
going to use it as a replacement for
the Series 5000 preamp (still working)
when it finally dies. Any suggestions
would be appreciated. (V. P., McLoughlins Beach, Vic)
● OPA2134PA ICs are still available
from multiple online retailers, and
they appear to still be current devices.
For example:
• RS 285-8069
• DigiKey OPA2134PA-ND
• Mouser 595-OPA2134PA
There is another variant available,
the OPA2134PAG4, which is essentially identical.
We can’t think of any reason you
couldn’t use NE5532s or LM833s
instead, as we did in later designs with
similar circuits. They have similar if
not superior performance (eg, slightly
lower noise). The main difference is
that the OPA2134 is a FET-input op
amp, which is important in some applications, but it won’t make much difference in the Studio Series Preamp. SC
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